COMMENTS for CHORD PATTERNS with melodies Keyboards piano

[Admin]

I do have the program Noteworthy Composer, so I will download it in that format too when you have them ready.
Thank You,
Dale

Two of the 3 .NWC scrolling notation files are ready as attatchments now - bottom of 1st post above - scroll up - but I think you mean NOTEWORTHY VIEWER _not COMPOSER ? but please upgrade your version here for this course - click here to download it here
Thanks Mike

[bigbeardale]

OK, Thank you Mike. I will get that file now. I do have a registered Noteworthy composer, and it opens the files too, but I will get the viewer and try it out. Never used the viewer before since I had the composer. I bought it to help me learn to read music. Have the treble clef pretty good, I used to mess with guitar and learned the treble years ago, but still learning the bass clef.
I downloaded the notation software you yesterday. It gives you a 30 day trial. Have not messed with it yet, but will today. It might be better than noteworthy composer.
I am thinking of taking some lessons here locally for a few months too. That might help a lot. I called the music store, and they said $15 for a half hour. Guess that would not be too bad if I just do it a few months a year.
Oh, I got that other program you have on here too, the one that starts with a V. Can't remember what it is called, it is on my other pc, but it is the one that opens the mid files and shows the keyboard playing them. It is pretty nice too.  In my noteworthy composer, I can copy a song from a book, and it will play it, and I can save it as a mid. Only thing I dont like about noteworthy composer, is it just scrolls the one line. It does not show the music on a whole page. The notation program will probably be better for that huh?
Thanks again for writing these files. I will download that one now, and see if I can practice it for a while.
Dale

[Admin]

Only thing I dont like about noteworthy composer, is it just scrolls the one line. It does not show the music on a whole page.
Dale

Notwewothy Viewer + Noteworthy Composer defintely shows whole page as many staves as wanted - I think it is how you got the scores you talk about into it - but that wont apply to my files which show many staves at once

Yep lessons in real time always good - esp in very beginning - with one hour a week a teacher is can help a lot but still supplementar  material like provided here makes more interesting but teachers in real time could help you with this stuff too ...little things that are harder online to chat about than face to face

peronally i would not recommend Noteworthy COMPOSER for beginners its designed for composers + pretty complex

The other one you have on trial would be more helpful if wanting to  import midi files and then mess around with them changing them and printing them
 although if thats all you anted to do then Noteworthy composer is just as easy for simple functions like that

[bigbeardale]

Thank you too Shelly..... Don't plan being Mozart, but just wish I could play the keyboard. I did know a few chords on the guitar, not that many though. I broke my wrist, left one, and the bar chords are too hard for me now. My father passed away in 2002 and left me a Casio keyboard that he had. I ended up buying another one too. Kind of wish I would have bought more keys though. Both of mine only have the 61 keys.
I have figured out how to finger the C F and G chords on the keyboard so far. My problem now is I am a very slow reader, and get confused on what fingers to use for melodys out of fake books. I bought a chord book, and plan on learning more chords. Some of the fingering I seen in the chord book looks kind of hard too. Like the B flat note on a C7 chord. Guess you have to move your fingers up closer to those black keys to reach some of those chords, and put your fingers on the white notes in between the black keys. That seems like the only way to finger some of the ones I seen in this chord book.
Mike is very helpful here too. He gave me some tips on the melody fingering, plus he is uploading the nwc files too.
Need some more people leaving tips on here. I can use all the help I can get.
Thanks agian guys,
Dale

[px410shelley]

Hi Dale,
It's a pleasure.
Regarding the C7 chord.
The most comfy position to hold this chord is:
G with your little finger, Bflat with your middle finger, C with the pointing finger and E with the thumb. When placing your hand on a keyboard, pretend that there is an imaginary orange or a ball or something in the palm of your hand, in other words, keep your hand and wrist from simply resting on the keys. It should be in the air and finger tips on the keys. This way you will find it easier to reach all the white and black notes. If you play like this, you will find you will be less clumsy when changing chords. It's much the same as typing, if you rest on the computer keyboard you will make more mistakes, whereas if you type with the finger tips and keep your hands off, you will be a more accurate typist.

Just a hint. You must be comfortable playing though, so if your wrist bothers you, you may have to find the most comfortable way for you to play.

All the best!
Shelley

[bigbeardale]

That C7 chord is much easier that way. Thank You. I finally went for a lesson today. He said that I am reading the notes good enough to learn the 2 octave C scale with both hands. Looks like that is going to take some time getting used to, the fingering in both hands that is. The teacher said to just take it very slow, and that it should get automatic after a while. He said run them both ways, up and down. I am still a very slow reader, especially the bass clef.
Mike, I will try your second file later this week too. I messed with the first one some, and will need more work on it too.
Oh, I found something else out from this teacher today. Let me know if you guys agree with him. The book that he had me working out of had a chord that I played with the right hand, but it was kind of hard for me to play it. It had the Thumb on F sharp, the 4 and 5 on C and D. He said that he uses 3 and 4 on the C and D and that is easier for him. He said you do not have to finger stuff the way the book tells you too. That is suggested fingering. The 3 and 4 on C and D seemed easier for me too.

Take Care,
Dale

[Admin]

That C7 chord is much easier that way. Thank You. I finally went for a lesson today. He said that I am reading the notes good enough to learn the 2 octave C scale with both hands. Looks like that is going to take some time getting used to, the fingering in both hands that is. The teacher said to just take it very slow, and that it should get automatic after a while. He said run them both ways, up and down. I am still a very slow reader, especially the bass clef.
Mike, I will try your second file later this week too. I messed with the first one some, and will need more work on it too.
Oh, I found something else out from this teacher today. Let me know if you guys agree with him. The book that he had me working out of had a chord that I played with the right hand, but it was kind of hard for me to play it. It had the Thumb on F sharp, the 4 and 5 on C and D. He said that he uses 3 and 4 on the C and D and that is easier for him. He said you do not have to finger stuff the way the book tells you too. That is suggested fingering. The 3 and 4 on C and D seemed easier for me too.

Take Care,
Dale

Posted my answer to this as seperate post in the  BOARD Digital Piano Keyboard COURSES -POP BALLAD, DANCE, ROCK and CLASSICAL reading courses software
as the topic CONTEMPORARY MUSIC Keboard Piano - Which approach ?

I am sure other music teachers or intermediate advanced players could add thier views to it too though

[bigbeardale]

Hi All...
                  Anyone have any good tips on harmonizing a melody? I have learned a lots of chords, but I am playing them with my left hand. Would like to get some tips on right hand chords and playing the melody note too with the right hand, and maybe just roots or whatever would sound best with the left.
Thanks ,
Dale

[Admin]

Hi All...
                  Anyone have any good tips on harmonizing a melody? I have learned a lots of chords, but I am playing them with my left hand. Would like to get some tips on right hand chords and playing the melody note too with the right hand, and maybe just roots or whatever would sound best with the left.
Thanks ,
Dale

Hi dale whilst learning the right hand approach to chords its usually best to start with a simple left hand octave pattern (gives you more time think out the right hand chord note inserts to melody as you go along )
ie
CHORD of C
Beats
1   2   3   4 |1   2   3   4 |1   2   3   4 |1   2   3   4 |
RIGHT
(take one strong beat(1 or 3 )notes and fill in one more of remaining notes of chord
ie
melody high E
play c below ( see more below )
CHORD
C                F                etc
LEFT
low   8ve+   low   8ve+
C      C        F      F        etc

RIGHT more info

If melody is high E in chord of C fill in either C (root)or G(fifth)below or both
If melody is C above middle in chord of C
fill in G (fifth)or E (third) or both below


If melody is A in chord of F then  fill in F (root) or C (5th) of both below
This could make a good discussion so you or anyone are welcome to try this and then ask more specific questions as you go along
Thanks .....hope you are keeping wll:)

[natesh]

thank you very much